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11:30 a.m. eastern tomorrow here on fnc. please remember the spin stops here. we're looking out for you. three three courageous americans jumped a gunman who opened fire on a crowded train. word that american soldiers jumped into action to stop a potential mass shooting on a train. a gunman opened fire on a high-speed train traveling from amsterdam to paris. >> it look like an ak-47. it was jammed and wasn't working. he was trying to charge the weapon. and alex hit me on the shoulder and said, let's go. >> we know he'd been on the radar of intelligence services across europe. >> the gunman would have been successful if my friend spencer had not gotten up. >> he had a sizable arsenal of
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weapons including kalashnikovs and automatic pistols, 300 rounds of ammunition. >> instincts, survival. >> those three americans that took him down. >> they're the best america has to offer. >> a nation so grateful that these guys were there at that moment. three incredibly young men who tonight make every american so proud. >> we couldn't have let everybody die like that. a crazy situation. >> he seemed like he was ready to fight till the end. so were we. >> three american heroes rushing to the rescue doing the incredible, stopping a heavily armed terrorist on the tracks. "terror on the tracks" an american hero's story. tonight one incredibly brave american servicemen talks about how he and two friends stop what would have been a deadly attack. it unfolded on a train in
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france. alex scarlatos. this courageous american charging the gunman and holding him down until police arrived. right now alex skarlatos goes on the record. as you watch this hero's story tweet using #proudamerican. thanks for joining us. what do you think when you watch that opening? >> it's still unbelievable. i can't believe it. i would like to say one thing, though, i didn't hold him down. spencer was the one who held him down and choked him. so i want to get that straight. >> the three of you work together and with the help of a brit, a brit helped as well. >> yeah, yeah, he was great. he helped tie him up afterwards and he helped translate for us with the french which was actually very important because we -- no one spoke english on that train. he was fantastic. >> take us back to the beginning. you and your two friends decide
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to go to europe for a vacation or meet up? >> we were going to meet in amsterdam and then head to paris. then from paris they were going to break off and i would probably head back to germany. >> how did you know these guys? >> spencer and i have been neighbors since we were 4 or 5 years old. we've literally grown up together. our mothers still live next door to each other in the same houses. so -- and anthony met spencer and i in middle school. and i mean, spencer and i have been friends for the whole time. and anthony as well. it's just that we haven't been able to stay in that close of contact lately just because i've been in afghanistan, spencer's been in the azores and we just haven't been around sacramento to see anthony. >> whose idea was it to finally get together and go to europe together? >> it was spencer and my idea. i've wanted to do something like that for a long, long time. then coming off the deployment while spencer was in the azores just seemed like the perfect
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time to do it. there's no way we're not going to do this, because i'm doing this trip. if you want to come, you're already in portugal, so why not? anthony said, i haven't seen you guys in a while, so let's do this, so we all did. >> the idea was to meet up and travel around on a train. but it turned out very differently. >> oh, yeah. >> much differently than what you expected. >> yeah, what can you do. >> take me to the day that this whole thing unfolded. what time before the train? >> boarded the train at 3:17 p.m. local time. >> and you were headed to paris? >> yes. >> what time were you supposed to get there about? >> it was around 6:35, if i remember correctly. >> so what happened? did you hear something? >> well, spencer and anthony were asleep. i heard a gunshot and breaking glass was the first thing that i heard. i didn't realize it was a gunshot at the time. i thought somebody dropped something and broke a window or
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something like that. i didn't realize what was going on, really, until a train employee ran past us at a full splint. >> >> away from the noise or towards it. >> to the back of the train. >> you guys went toward it. at that point spencer woke up and we saw a guy entering our car with an ak-47 look like he was trying to work the action or something like that. we ducked down immediately. let's go get him. spencer was the first one up. i got up about two or three seconds behind spencer because i actually didn't even know he left until i saw him running in front of me. oh, i better get going. so spencer got to him first, tackled the guy. i guess he dropped his ak-47 around that time and it's all kind of a blink. we beat up on him a little bit, anthony got some blows in for sure. spencer got the choke in on the
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guy. then he pulled out a handgun. i -- it was right in front of me so i just grabbed the handgun immediately, pried it out of his hand. tried to shoot him with it twice, but it was empty at that point. so i threw it. then i grabbed the ak-47 which was at his feet. i don't remember this, but i apparently tried to shoot him with that as well. but then i started beating him over the head with it, with the muzzle. and just him him about four or five times until he stopped moving. at that time he started to go unconscious from spencer's chokehold and then he passed out. we put him on the ground, chris helped tie him up. then around that time we noticed that mark was shot through the neck. mark is the french american guy. >> the actor? >> no. he's i think a different guy. i'm not sure, though.
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but anyway, yes, mark got shot through the neck. and his wife brought it to our attention. i told spencer. spencer immediately ran over to him, started performing first aid on him, just held down the artery. and at that point i took the ak-47 and went back to check the other train cars and make sure there was no other shooter or anything like that. told the passengers to keep everybody in the car where they were, don't let anybody come up front. then i came back and the terrorist was already tied up. mark -- or chris did a good job there. spencer was still working on mark. i made sure spencer didn't need anything else. got some first aid kit or something like that. and i checked mark to make sure he wasn't -- didn't have any other gunshot wounds. i cut his shirt off with the box cutter the terrorist was stabbing spencer with. and from this just rode the rest of the train out till it got
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there. >> what was going on in the train? were people screaming. were any of the conductors or anyone on the train helping you or just basically the three of you and the brit and there was another unidentified -- a man named damiedamien, i think. >> the unidentified man, he actually did a lot more at the beginning. apparently we talked to him right after it happened, and he told us that he was waiting for the bathroom, and when the guy came out with the ak, they just stared at each other for a few se started to choke him. and apparently a train employee -- i don't know if it was the same one that ran past me or not, came back and broke them up thinking it was just a regular fight. when he broke them up, that's when he came into our cabin and shot mark in the neck. that's when we node hticed him. >> how is mark, do you know? >> i talked to him right before i left france. he seemed to be doing great.
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he was going into surgery that night. i haven't heard anything about him involving him since. >> the terrorist, the guy with the ak-47, was he saying anything at this time at least in the very beginning? >> no, he said nothing at all. i didn't hear him say a word, honestly. >> but obviously the box cutter and he hurt spencer. >> he put up a good fight. but when you got three or four guys that are all bigger than you, you don't stand a chance really. >> why do you think you ran towards it? i must admit that i fear i would have run away. >> honestly, i was afraid of that, too. i was afraid that if something like this happened i would sit there and piss my pants or something. when i had came in, i knew we had to do something. spencer was on the aisle seat, i was on the window seat. i just said let's go. spencer had to be the first one to get up. and he didn't hesitate at all. he got up and ran straight at
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the guy while the guy was trying to get his ak working to shoot him, mind you. and spencer got him and got the choke in. we all just started beating on him. i mean i've told other people this, but we've got very, very lucky. his handgun was only able to fire the one round, then the magazine dropped out of it. the ak i'm pretty sure he just had it on safe or wasn't able to get it functioning in the first place. and his ammunition was horrible because there was a firing pin strike on one of the rounds and it didn't go off. we just got lucky in five or six different ways. if any one of those things were different, we all would have died, especially spencer. >> train filled with people? >> yeah, it was -- i wouldn't say packed to capacity because we were in first class, so i don't really know about the rest of the train. but they say there's about 550
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people on that train and that seems like a lot to me. i don't know what the standard load is. >> what were the other passengers on the train -- i suppose you were busy trying to restrain this guy and make sure he didn't kill anybody, but did you have any other idea what the passengers were doing or was anyone saying anything? >> well, there's a few screams at first. and again, i don't really know, didn't notice what was going on. but after it was all over, everybody seemed just really quiet and in shock for the most part. there was one train employee that came up to us right as it was getting over and told spencer to stop choking the guy, which was insane because he wasn't even fully unconscious and told me to put the ak down, which again was insane because i hadn't even looked through the train to see if anybody else was there. i don't know what he was thinking. but i just told him that i was military and to calm down and get out of the way. chris translated for us. that was really it other than
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mark's wife who, of course, was worried about her husband. >> how long was the ride from the time that you took him down till the time you finally came to a stop and it was pretty much over at that point? >> it was a lot longer than i thought. it was actually about -- i think we clocked it at 35 minutes. >> he was on the floor restrained. what are you doing, what's going through your mind? >> we're just making sure he wasn't getting up. at that point he was already tied up. and i had chris making sure he wasn't moving or waking up or anything like that. but really spencer was busy doing his thing. i was busy looking through the cars. i honestly wasn't too concerned with him. i was concerned there might be another one. >> and so then the 35-minute ride and you get to your destination, then what happens? >> well, at that point i had already cleared all the weapons and put them in a corner by a door. spencer was still providing
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medical care on mark. he saved his life, no doubt. and right when we pulled into the station, the doors came open. after about five or six police and paramedics came on board i found a gap and got right off the train. >> at what point did they recognize that you guys were the heroes in this, you essentially prevented a lot of lives from being destroyed and killed? >> i'm sure it was immediately afterwards because when they came off the train they realized that we were the once around the terrorist and mark. then they did some initial questioning right there on the platform and they figured out that we were the ones most directly involved and so they took us immediately to the police station for questioning. >> how long were you there answering questions? >> five hours. >> this wasn't exactly the trip you planned, was it? >> no, i mean, frankly, i thought they'd just let us go afterwards. i thought that same night they'd
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just put us on a different train to paris and we'd all be fine. but yeah, no, it's been absolutely unreal for sure. >> and when you got to paris, you got the award, the legion of honor, which is france's highest award. incredible what you guys did, incredible that you got the award. good for the french. >> the french were absolutely fantastic to us. i mean, from the police station in aras to the elysee. the american embassy workers they were awesome, too. a great experience. >> i might add that you guys really deserved it. everyone was terrific to you but you so deserved it. alek if you'll stay with us, we'll take a quick break. we'll be joined by his family. you'll hear all about his two fellow heroes, that's next. fellow heroes. that's next.
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american hero alek skarlatos was not the only one who went above and beyond to risk his life for others on that fateful day. two other americans also became heroes when they stepped up and thwarted a terror attack in progress. you've met alek skarlatos but two other americans stepped in also saved live. best friend spencer stone and anthony sadler. plus three other people joining forces to stop a terrorist on the traction. so who are these other heroes? meet anthony sadler.
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he's 23 and a senior at sacramento state. anthony traveling to europe on a trip he'll never forget. >> i came to see my friends on my first trip in europe and we stopped a terrorist. it's kind of crazy. >> sadler's high school basketball coach said this former point shooting guard also kept cool under pressure. >> he's a hero to the world and to all of us, but anthony is a hero based on the things he did when he was 13, 14, 15 years old. >> then there's airman first class spencer stone. he's a 6'4" guy. his proud father says his son may have been shy growing up. >> not a lot of 22-year-olds have the wherewithal to take action, i'm glad spencer did. >> but the 22-year-old clearly learned a thing or two as a paramedic in the air force. spencer using those skills to help one of his fellow good samaritans. spencer sees a bleeding neck and putting pressure on it with his bare hands to save a life. his former basketball coach not surprised. >> a really nice kid, stand-up
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guy. hard worker, very humble. at the same time you weren't supersurprised that he did put himself in jeopardy to try to save others. >> those are the two other americans. who else helped out? meet chris norman, an i.t. consultant born in uganda. the 62-year-old saw the commotion and likewise strang into action. norman saw his own death sentence right before his eyes and that pushed him to action. >> i'd rather die being active, trying to get him down than simply sit in the corner and be shot. >> martin gallion also on that train. living in france for 20 years. today mark runs a school from a houseboat outside of paris. his wife warns him get down. then he rips the gun out of the terrorist's hands. mark was shot, fell to the ground. spencer stone, the american paramedic, rushing to his rescue. a sixth hero that day. a french baker named damien.
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we don't know much about damien, but witnesses say the 28-year-old was among the first to approach the evil terrorist. three men so fearless and courageous representing what is so great about america. the heroes have been honored and praised by leaders and ordinary citizens across the globe. now anthony sadler is getting a little help with his education. sacramento state university has set up a scholarship to help him pay for tuition, books and any other expenses. earlier this week anthony's sister went on the record. >> you know, it's so exciting to talk to the family, to a relative of someone so courageous. what do you think about your brother? >> oh, my goodness, he's my younger brother. so i've had, you know, of course, certain opinions, you know as far as, you know, what he can share and teach me and what he can't, but i'm just in awe. i am so amazed by his act, and
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i'm -- i don't know what to say. it's such an inspiration to me, though, and my family. >> how does this happen? he goes off to europe with his friends and comes back with france's highest award and he thwarted an act of terrorism on a train. is there any way to top that? >> i don't think there is, greta. i think he's pretty much hit the sky with this one. >> how did you hear about this terrorism? and when did you first learn that your brother was one of the heroes? >> well, i found out kind of scattered with all the information. so it was pretty traumatic for me. i was -- i found out early friday morning i got a call from a family member who is good friends with the mothers of spencer and alek. she just kept asking, he's in europe, right, with spencer and alek and i kept answering, yes, yes. she kept saying we haven't got hold of him. have you talked to him.
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i said not in a day or so. i kept hearing train and terrorists. and at that point i really started to freak out. i contacted my brother immediately, and he did -- it was shortly after the event. he did share with me briefly about, you know, what he experienced and similar to alek's father's experience. a short conversation, then he, too, had to go and speak to authorities and such. >> how do these three young men know each other? how long have they been friends? >> they've been friends since they were real young. i believe started in middle school. and they've just went to middle school together beginning in high school they all separated and went to three different schools. they just maintained a very, very close relationship in spite of all of that. this trip was just another one of their adventures together. >> now what happens, your brother comes home with the highest honor of france. he goes back to college. is that the plan? >> i hope so. i don't know what his life will
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be like now. i think it's kind of rest in peace to the kind of life that he has. it's time to embrace what life is going to be at this point. >> arissa, as i said to alek's father, your brother makes americans so proud to be americans. it ricocheted around the world. everybody knows what they did. i thank him as well as everybody else. will you tell him? >> yes, i sure will. thank you so much for having us. >> arissa, thank you. straight ahead, a heavily armed man with ties to radical islam tackled to the ground -- opens fire on a train, then tackled to the floor by brave americans. what happened minute by minute. alek skarlatos is back and joined by his very proud family as a special "on the record" continues.
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wes craven has lost his fight with brain cancer. he died in his los angeles home sunday. "nightmare on elm street" and "extre "scream" movies made his a recognizable name. craven was 76. now back to an "on the record" special. terror on the tracks, an american hero story. alek skarlatos, one of the three brave americans who put his life on the line to stop a terror attack aboard a crowded train in france goes on the record along with his very proud family. as you watch this hero's story, tweet using #proudamerican. but first, let's take a minute by minute look at how this vicious attack started and how the heroes made their decisions to jump into action. >> the gunshot was probably the
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first noise i heard. and then that was followed by some breaking glass. >> i just woke up from the middle of a deep sleep and i turned around and i saw he had what looked to be an ak-47. and he looked like it was jammed or it wasn't working and he was trying to charge the weapon. and alek just hit me on the shoulder and said, let's go. >> i got out of my seat. >> went down, tackled him, we hit the ground, alek came up and grabbed the gun out of his hand while i put him in a chokehold. seemed like he kept pulling more weapons left and right. pulled out a handgun. alek took that. he took out a box cutter, started jabbing at me with that. we let go. all three of us started punching him while he was in the middle of us. i was able to grab him again and choke him unconscious while alek
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was hitting him in the head with either the pistol or rifle. i can't remember. >> it wasn't really a conscious decision. we just kind of acted. there wasn't much thinking going on. >> he essentially came in and entered the car, we saw him cocking the ak-47. >> he clearly had no -- whatsoever. if we hadn't done the right thing, he would have been able to go through allation eight o magazines. we probably wouldn't be here today. >> it still feels very unreal. feels like a dream. so i hardly know what to say. >> i'm still waiting to wake up. this is all just seems like a movie scene or something. like you say, the word to describe it is receipt unreal. >> he seemed like he was ready to fight to the end.
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so were we. >> oregon national guard specialist alec scar lot oes is a true american hero. without even thinking he displayed the bravery that makes all of us so proud. his family all go on the record. welcome to the family. we start first, were you surprised to hear about your brother? >> yeah. i was very surprised. he actually woke me up when he called me. so yeah, it was pretty surprising. >> what did he say to you? >> the conversation lasted about one minute. and he just said, i was on a train and there was an active shooter. and he said, just, you know, tell mom, tell dad, let them know what happened. he kind of briefly explained what happened. i was pretty shocked. he said at the end, everybody's fine. so yeah, it was pretty crazy. >> how about you, peter, surprised? >> of course, yeah. hearing that your brother was involved in a terrorist attack
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is incredibly surprising, but as far as the actions that all three took, i'm not very surprised at all. >> i'm not surprised either. incredibly surprised that it happened. but not surprised at all that alek was one of the men that would stand up and do something about it. >> i know i said to alek, i regret that i probably would have run the other direction. why do you think your son ran towards it with the other two? what's different about these three? >> i think that they're -- well, in a situation like that, it's a matter of survival and alek recognized that. and also it's a matter of, you know, i think they're aware of good and evil. i think they chose good. i think my sons are good boys. and i'm very proud of all three of them, and alek especially in
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this particular situation. he and his friends saved a lot of lives. a potential disaster for everyone concerned on that train. >> alek, i've asked whether you were surprised in this, were you surprised at the reception you received when you came back to the united states, in newark, police were lined up. we have video of this. this is in newark airport. alex and the police were lined up to see you? >> they were lined up all the way from the moment i exited the plane until the moment i exited the airport. so i mean, they were fantastic. there's probably good 200 of them. that was ridiculous. i didn't even know anybody knew
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i was coming. yeah. that meant a lot to me, especially from the police. >> you got france's highest honor. have you ever heard of the legion of honor before? >> no, i haven't. >> so you know what a big deal it is, right? >> now i do. again, so grateful for that. >> what did president hollande say to you? >> he speaks french. >> he didn't speak any english to you? >> not really. he said thank you, i mean. >> did you watch it on tv with everyone else? >> solon and i were able to watch it thanks to a french reporter, philippe? yeah, philippe, he came over to our home and translated and streamed the event for us live. and it was amazing. we'd really like to say thanks to him a lot. >> karen? >> just amazing. these three young men. i suppose to you in some ways they're boys. >> well, i keep referring to
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them as the boys, but i guess that's just what families do. but certainly they're not boys. >> indeed, they aren't. they're heroes. >> you know spencer, too, right? >> i do. >> grew up next door. >> every time i mention spencer, you laugh, alek. every time his picture comes up, why is that? >> he's a crackup, hilarious dude. superfunny. he's larger than life, i guess. but in a funny way. he's a great guy. if he's around, whatever your doing is a lot more fun, that's for sure. i'll put it that way. >> also if he's around, you're probably a lot safer. if any of the three of you are around, you're a lot more safer. >> i hope so. >> how badly was he injured, by the way? how is his thumb? >> apparently got cut bad enough that the bone was the only thing holding on. he got the tendon cut off pretty much all the way around. it looked like a speepizza.
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he didn't notice his own wounds because he was busy saving mark's life. i didn't even realize he was wounded until he was already bent over mark and the back of his neck opened up. like i said, it was only about an inch away from his artery. so he just came so close to losing his own life multiple times. he was already working on saving mark's life. >> what this has done, this makes so many americans proud. it's so fun. you and i talked about that. >> yeah, i'm very proud, and i'm in awe of all three of them. and i've looked on the tv watching what was going on after the fact and learning a lot of things that were happening that happened that i didn't know. and in the beginning, i just -- it didn't sink in. when i've watched the video on
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tv and learned more about the incident, it just really impressed me. these guys impressed me. >> karen, do you want them to go back? >> no. >> solon, you want them to go back to europe? >> i mean, yeah, sure, i guess, why not? >> i think he should finish up his vacation. definitely he'll have to be more aware because every european probably knows his face by now. >> indeed, everyone probably does know his face. thank you all very much. we're learning more about the terrorist suspect. the radical jihadist was ready for a massacre. we'll take you to france next. 130 yards now... bill's got a very tough lie here... looks like we have some sort of sea monster in the water hazard here. i believe that's a "kraken", bruce. it looks like he's going to go with a nine iron. that may not be enough club...
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the gunman on a train heading for paris tackled by a group of passengers. >> the guy came out of the bathroom with the ak-47.
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>> france and belgium all say he'd been on their radar as a terrorist. >> finnish security forces say they alerted the french calling him a dangerous radical. >> he trained with isis in turkey and was sent to syria to fight. >> he went to a mosque known for violent messages. >> he was armed with an ak-47, nine magazines, a pistol and a box cutter. >> seemed like he was ready to fight till the end. so were we. >> the terrorist, the brave american heroes stopped was on the radar of at least three different countries for his ties to radical islam. the moroccan boarded the train with an assault rifle, a pistol ready to carry out a massacre. with more on the suspect, katherine. >> greta, yes, the suspect is still in custody. he appears before a judge here in paris on tuesday. prosecutors have filed formal charges against him. he's accused of targeted and
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premeditated jihadist attacks and also various firearms offenses and offenses really more to do with mixes with people who are also terrorists. it has to be said he has denied these charges, greta. quassani is saying all he wanted to do was hold up people on the train, steal their money, get some jewels, then run off into the night. the paris prosecutor said he doesn't believe that for a minute. the type of weapons he was carrying and also just before he carried out this attempted attack he'd been looking at jihadist videos on his mobile phone. so they're not having any truck luck with that excuse at the moment. >> there was a brit and others who were involved as well. telling me getting that legion of honor, that award from the french government, how big is that in france? >> it couldn't be bigger, greta. it just c bigger.
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and the fact that within an hour of the news coming through of what had happened on the train that people started saying, well it's the legion d'honore. the boys have to be given that. you're talking about a very grateful nation. because everyone knows this could have gone another way. there's also this enormous feeling of admiration that these people on the train did all this without thought. they just knew they had to do the right thing. having done the right thing, this incredible bravery, turned into humble heroes which has really endeared them more to the french because they haven't come out as being the brash americans that everyone hears about, but just being good honest guys from next door who knew to do the right thing at the right time. >> you know, catherine, they're childhood friends. alek told me he wants to go back to france, he wants to resume
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his trip. >> he should. paris is lovely in the autumn. he'd be more than welcome here. i'm sure that wherever he went, you know, he's subpoena a hero. and the other thing, greta, is the french don't forget incidents like that. when i think of my time here in france, i've been so many memorials of things where americans have come to the forefront. remember last year the anniversary of d-day. people still cheering the americans. people don't forget. >> catherine, thank you very much. appreciate it. three american heroes stopped a terror attack in france. but could that happen right here on american soil? those three heroes might not be on that next train. so how safe are our trains? that's next.
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i seemed like he kept stabbing at me. >> i feel our training kicked in aft after. >> it was something very serious. we were traveling internationally. my two friends were offduty military. so i knew its would be bigger than just the initial investigation. but i had no idea it would be like this. >> this warted attack, while installing great pride in americans is often giving a reality jolt here at home. could that terrorism ham here on our trains? how vulnerable are american railways to that kind of terrorist attack? earlier this week former vice president of security for amtrak bill rooney went on the record. how wonderful are our trains? >> well, greta, right up front,
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let me also say well done. they did a tremendous job out there. to answer your question, i talk a little bit about what probably still goes on in a boardroom when you're planning a corporate policy. there is always a debate about security. if we have too much, are we scaring passengers, are we this, are we that. you can't have an on-and-off strategy about security. in my opinion, what you need to do is you need follow-through. and when you have a security policy you need follow-through. one of the mind-sets is can't happen here. why? it's never happened here. a second mind-set is that in effect, i don't do windows. not my job. i sell tickets. i run my trains. hopefully on time. but i don't do security. and so it's an ongoing debate. then you get additional insight from people making corporate decisions saying it's not a moneymaker. it's not a moneymaker.
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it's a business cost. at the end of the day, we do need security. this is a wake-up call. in my opinion, we've had a number of them in the mid -- last decade regarding bombings in madrid, london, you name it. >> and it has this train, it's subways. there are trains here in this. but we have a huge -- a lot of people ride subways in this country. it's not just trains. >> correct. correct. >> i can't imagine that we're going to check every passage of everybody gets on every train and subway. thousands and thousands just in this city alone. >> but on that point, greta, you cannot check everyone, but you can check some. and if the bad guy is in, and he or she is targeting, they will look at security procedures in place. the more you can show an awareness of vigilance, the safer your passengers are
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traveling that train. >> and i assume the more we give passengers sort of the nod to go ahead and act in a sense, the passengers are sort of the best police. >> that's a point i make on that. from an operational point of view, greta is don't mix this up with sleepy hollow. this is a real setting. there are people coming after us. and they would like to do harm, without a doubt. >> bill, thank you. nice to talk to you. >> my pleasure, greta. coming up, we've had a string of some pretty bad news. but these three american heroes restore a little bit of faith in humanity. but so do you. i'll explain in my off the record, coming up. hey pal? you ready? can you pick me up at 6:30? ah... (boy) i'm here! i'm here! (cop) too late. i was gone for five minutes! ugh! move it. you're killing me. you know what, dad? i'm good. (dad) it may be quite a while before he's ready,
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i don't need to tell you, the news business deals with dissension and sadness. we are 24/7 up to our eyeballs in it from politicians saying awful and baseless things about each other and we air it, to
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horrible murders. recently two law enforcement officers in louisiana on two different days, 2 two young tv journalists in virginia. news can be pretty tough to stomach. but then suddenly you read about the good samaritan who tackled a man suspected of killing a louisiana state trooper, or you meet people like alex skarlatos who helped stop a terror attack on a train in france, and you're suddenly overtaken by the basic goodness and decency. and you're reminded, you know what? there is a lot of good out there. there are people who do a lot of the super human stuff like alex. >> he pulled out a handgun. i -- it was right in front of me. so i just grabbed the handgun immediately, pried it out of his hand. >> yes, that's the superhuman stuff. but there is also probably you doing a simple favor for someone, going out of your way, which you might not think a big deal, but it really is.
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it makes someone life's easier. thank you for reminding us that there is so much good in this world. that's my off the record comment tonight. good night. >> i am greg gutfeld your voice of reason in a cloud of unseason. to the tease, please. we asked owen wilson about his trump does he have some? he has some. hill country clinton's campaign turns to panic mode. they are claiming it is pornographic because he claims these about vaccination and other rale vaks two things i find disgusting. let's get started. >> he slipped over the last couple of weeks. >> he will be remembered for it negatively. >> he will fade away. >> not prepared for

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